Late January he offered me his tech special TS-850SAT transceiver on QTH.COM classifieds AD board.
$454 Western Union Money Order was sent for this radio to his address:
Richard Wise, KB8YIO
280 Holbrook Rd.
Chicago Heights, IL 60411-1050
He still was in E-mail contact with me that time, stating that he did not receive the money. After investigation on Post, I was informed that money order was paid up on 01.29.07 and Richard Wise was the payee. Since that time all my letters “where did you disappear to?” are unrequited. So I have neither radio nor money… The sorrowful conclusion – KB8YIO is not a decent man!
I keep all correspondence with him for all this time on my computer.
Be wary of KB8YIO, don’t permit him to rip off somebody else.
73! Igor kc5vfv
Beware KB8YIO - Ric Wise
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Re: Beware KB8YIO - Ric Wise
igor wrote:Late January he offered me his tech special TS-850SAT transceiver on QTH.COM classifieds AD board.
$454 Western Union Money Order was sent for this radio to his address:
Richard Wise, KB8YIO
280 Holbrook Rd.
Chicago Heights, IL 60411-1050
He still was in E-mail contact with me that time, stating that he did not receive the money. After investigation on Post, I was informed that money order was paid up on 01.29.07 and Richard Wise was the payee. Since that time all my letters “where did you disappear to?” are unrequited. So I have neither radio nor money… The sorrowful conclusion – KB8YIO is not a decent man!
I keep all correspondence with him for all this time on my computer.
Be wary of KB8YIO, don’t permit him to rip off somebody else.
73! Igor kc5vfv
Well I offered the man his money back and he told me he rather have the radio....This man slandered me before he asked me what was going on... AGAIN i offered
him his money till the post office figured out what is going on. as you will see he said no.
he would rather have the radio.
No i have not heard a word... I already offered to start sending your contact money till we can figure out what happened and you refused.I am doing all i can to fix this issue.
----- Original Message -----
From: igor khoustalev
To: kb8yio
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Ric!
Two weeks pass. Did you get any information about TS-850 parcel?
Igor
----- Original Message -----
From: kb8yio
To: "'igor khoustalev'"
Subject: RE: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:52:27 -0500
I have replied to everyone of your emails.
I have not found the tracking info yet. I am looking thru all my papers. . I called the post office they said without the delivery conformation number they will not be able to locate the item., and even if I had the tracking number it could still be weeks before they can locate it.
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From: igor khoustalev [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:43 AM
To: kb8yio
Subject: RE: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Ric!
Have you found the tracking number or parcel itself?
By the way, I was told by Mr.Kovtun, that there are only six appartments in his building with P.O.Boxes on the entrance and owner's names are indicated on each. So easy for postman to find the recipient even without appt number. Strange.
Once again I drag and drop from the bottom the address to send either radio or funds:
Sergey Kovtun
2220 14th Ave.S. #203
Minneapolis, MN 55404-3973.
Please respond.
Igor.
----- Original Message -----
From: kb8yio
To: "'igor khoustalev'"
Subject: RE: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:19:25 -0500
Its fine I called the post office yesterday. I have to see if I can locate the delivery conformation number . I keep these things about 3 weeks then throw them away. I got 8 phone calls yesterday >From people I have never spoke to before about this, So someone has already smeared my name online.
I am not concerned . I will keep you informed.
As I learn I will forward to you as well
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From: igor khoustalev [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:54 AM
To: kb8yio
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Thank you for explanation, Ric!
What a strange situation! The correct shipping address with suite #203 was given in my letter on Jan 27 and was included in your reply on Feb 2, you can see this down in this letter body.
As I wrote you, I was sure that this MO was lost, until I have received the opposite information from WU. This procedure took me 2 weeks (and $16). This is the reason of my silence, Ric. I had no information about your shipment.
Anyway, I need this transceiver more than money back. So I ask you to make all things possible to supervise the POST for that package to be delivered properly to Mr. Kovtun. If you give me the parcel's number, we will try to investigate in MN.
Please keep me informed.
Sorry for mutual misunderstanding.
Igor.
----- Original Message -----
From: kb8yio
To: "igor khoustalev"
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:50:33 -0600
If you would like please post whatever you'd like I did get the funds,I sent you an email from my [email protected] email while on the road with my band, twice telling you such. I got the package back Incorrect address
Sergey Kovtun
2220 14th Ave.
Minneapolis, MN 55404-3973
return to sender once and resent it once.After i noticed i did not include the suite number #203 I never heard from you so I assumed you got the package. I will call post office now I just walked in the house, I will post a lost package track, if they do not find in a timly fashion i will return your funds.And as a good faith ( keep in mind i work a 7.00 per hour job ) I can or will send you half my check on March 23 i make about 320 every 2 weeks .Via western Union Of course....
UNTIL THE POST OFFICE FIGURES where my package is.
Now i have ro rumage to see if i can find the emails i sent you and see if i can find my delivery confromation ticket...
All in All ITS YOUR CALL IGOR I have no problem sending you funds back, but i did ship the radio, I never heard from you So i assumed you got it.
But until the post office can give me an answer i can't do anything. About returning the funds I don't have it at this time , but i can in faith give you half my paycheck till i see what going on. and again if they don't have an answer in a timely fashion i will send you half my paycheck every 2 weeks starting march 23 , But if they find the gear i would hope you would send my money back.
----- Original Message -----
From: igor khoustalev
To: kb8yio
Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Ric!
Please respond on my request.
I've found your AD concerning this radio:Callsign:, KB8YIO. Category:, RADIOHF. Heading:, Ts-850sat w/ps-53 power supply and mc-60. Ad Message:, I have a Kenwood TS-850SAT in great condition say 8 ...
If you sold it prior to my money reception, no problem, just send $454.16 back to sender in Minneapolis.
If you will keep silence I decide you are a swindler and than will leave my feedback everywhere I will find the place: qth.com, talkabout network, qso net, Tri-Town Radio Amateur Club and so on. And Cook county police indeed.
Igor
Great! This Forum works as well as on QRZ.com and forces to make a reply!
Yes, that offer was really maid, but more than month ago, March 16. And I wait a next month without any result.
Then I asked KB8YIO to send money back with no reply. Two week after that I sent this post on board.
Anyway I repeat - still have neither radio nor money!
This letters are hidden by KB8YIO:
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:00 -0500
Ric! Why you have not answered on my two last letters?
Please respond!
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:43:00 -0500
Hi, Ric!
Please confirm, have you sent the money order?
Igor.
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:53:02 -0500
OK,Ric.
This way I think we should cancel this project. Please send money back to Mr. Sergey Kovtun, 2220 14th Ave.S. #203,
Minneapolis, MN 55404-3973. $454 money order.
73! Igor
----- Original Message -----
From: kb8yio
To: "igor khoustalev"
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 07:36:42 -0500
No i have not heard a word... I already offered to start sending your contact money till we can figure out what happened and you refused.I am doing all i can to fix this issue.
Yes, that offer was really maid, but more than month ago, March 16. And I wait a next month without any result.
Then I asked KB8YIO to send money back with no reply. Two week after that I sent this post on board.
Anyway I repeat - still have neither radio nor money!
This letters are hidden by KB8YIO:
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:00 -0500
Ric! Why you have not answered on my two last letters?
Please respond!
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:43:00 -0500
Hi, Ric!
Please confirm, have you sent the money order?
Igor.
To: kb8yio <halfcent>
CC:
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:53:02 -0500
OK,Ric.
This way I think we should cancel this project. Please send money back to Mr. Sergey Kovtun, 2220 14th Ave.S. #203,
Minneapolis, MN 55404-3973. $454 money order.
73! Igor
----- Original Message -----
From: kb8yio
To: "igor khoustalev"
Subject: Re: QTH.COM Ad -- WTB broken or nonworking ...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 07:36:42 -0500
No i have not heard a word... I already offered to start sending your contact money till we can figure out what happened and you refused.I am doing all i can to fix this issue.
5 month past after begining of this project. Time shows that my rightness is proven, to my regret. KB8YIO had no intention to sell the transceiver ( or even transceiver itself ). Just had intention to deceive. I have neither money, nor radio. And he even changed his E-mail. Next step he will change his Call to let his business go on…
Before this case it was hard to imagine, that one amateur radio could get rich on another’s deceive, that he could disgrace his name for amount of 450 dollars. Now I see that it happens, and believe in Judas story.
I was first licensed in 1979 and I observe with pity that time is changed and HAM spirit means less and less in our days. Both on air and HAM to HAM relationship. This is very bad…
Before this case it was hard to imagine, that one amateur radio could get rich on another’s deceive, that he could disgrace his name for amount of 450 dollars. Now I see that it happens, and believe in Judas story.
I was first licensed in 1979 and I observe with pity that time is changed and HAM spirit means less and less in our days. Both on air and HAM to HAM relationship. This is very bad…