NT8N-Charles Randy-Bad Deal-

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ne6vjoe
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NT8N-Charles Randy-Bad Deal-

Post by ne6vjoe »

NT8N has a listing for a AL-1500 with no tube and no transformer. I contacted him when the first ad was al-1500 less tube. Since I have an Eimac 3cpx1500 tube I felt this was a good amp for me. Randy said he thought the transformer was at his job on a shelf. He told me he'd go to work and get it. The next day he emailed me and said someone put the transformer in the trash. So he asked me to make him an offer. I then emailed him and passed on it. I did some research and he suggested that a peter dahl transformer would be 400.00 or so. I then offered him 500.00. He then replied to me and wrote make it 550.00 and we'd have a deal. I replied ok sold. I emailed him and asked how would he l. He replied and wrote that money orders would be fine. I emailed him and wrote I would like it to be shipped fedex ground and I'd pay for it. I offered him 40.00 for shipping. He replied that would be fine. I then went to my bank and bought him a cashiers check for 590.00. I mailed it priority mail. I emailed him and advised him it was on the way. I also advised him I had ordered the transformer for it, and it was on the way to me.

Then today November 22 I get an email from him saying he decided to KEEP IT! I was shocked and upset. Considering I had already ordered the transformer for it, and when I ordered it I was told the return policy was simple if I return it for any reason besides it not working I would be charged a restocking fee!

I emailed Randy several times on November 22 trying to figure out what was wrong, and since I knew he got my cashiers check on Friday November 21 I was very worried. I then get an email back from him in which he says he thought I passed on it and he sold it to someone else!

I then knew what happened someone else offered him more money and he took that offer, even after he knew I had already sent him the money!

So talk about unethical and a scammer! I then emailed him and told him he owes me the restocking fee and return shipping cost!

Not to mention WHERE IS MY 590.00 which I sent him!!!

Here is the email chain...He tried to erase some but I have them all. You can see for your self he knew I was buying it...

email chain below:

If you read the emails you will see he knew I was mailing him the check, also he first says he changed his mind about selling it. Then in the next email he comes up with this crazy excuse and finally admits he sold it to someone else.


THIS AMP ACTUALLY BELONGS TO HIS EMPLOYER ITT SCHOOL IN OHIO, AND I DON'T THINK THEY KNOW HE'S SELLING IT!! HE SAYS HE'S THE DEPT CHAIR OF AN ITT-TECH IN OHIO. I think they'd love to know what he's doing with their property!!!








Charles R Adams
8:07 PM (3 hours ago)

to Joe
I thought we had a deal also but you sent the email telling me you changed your mind. Also if you want to get particular you sent the Check before I said ok.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Vega
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:01 PM
To: Charles Adams
Subject: RE: Al1500

Randy
That doesn't make sense because you knew I was mailing you a check. In fact you wrote if I waited you you would have sent me a paypal invoice. So sorry Randy your excuse is just not right. Just be honest someone offered you more money and you took that. I can't believe you are doing this. Does your emplorer know what you are doing with thier property? I expect you to honor our agreement and send the amp to me. If not then you owe me the restocking fee and shipping of the transformer back to mfj. Or your employer does and I will contact them and have them reimburse me. Its up to you. I will gladly pay you whatever this other. Person is paying you.

Its up to you to do the right thing. If you do not honor our agreement.

So do the right thing.

Joe



Charles R Adams
6:57 PM (4 hours ago)

to Joe
I received a email from you day before yesterday that said you had changed your mind and you was not going to buy the amp.
So I told another buyer they could have it
Randy


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Vega
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:57 PM
To: Charles R Adams
Subject: Re: Al1500

Hi Randy,
I don't understand whats going on. I already ordered from MFJ/Ameritron the transformer. It cost me $443.50. Its on its way to me. I ordered it because I thought we had a deal. MFJ/Ameritron will be charging me a restocking fee and I will need to pay for shipping to send it back to them. I feel you should reimburse me for the restocking fees and the shipping. Again, I ordered it on good faith that we had a deal. We had a gentlemens' agreement on the amp. The restocking fee is 10 or 15% of the 403.50 of the items cost. The product id is 406-1418-1d. I can forward to you the email I got from them when they shipped it. Which was yesterday, Friday the 21st. I have no idea how much the shipping will be back to them. They charged me 40.00 shipping and handling.

I still would like the amp, why did you change your mind? Please reconsider.

It would be nice if you would call me. I call you but your phone goes to voicemail.

Joe



Charles R Adams
2:59 PM (8 hours ago)

to Joe
Joe, that’s fine no worries. I will return your check asap
I changed my mind about the sell anyway
Thanks Randy


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Vega
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:29 PM
To: Adams, Charles
Subject: Re: Al1500

Hi Randy,
I think I'll pass.
Thank you,
Joe

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Adams, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
Joe,
The transformer is missing. Someone threw it away.
Make me an offer on the amp.
Thanks
Randy NT8N

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
I just called again and was sent to voice mail.
You can call me at 626-235-1725.
Joe



Adams, Charles
Nov 20 (2 days ago)

to Joe
Correct. The power transformer is missing.
Randy

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
I wish you would have said something. Anyway the cashiers check will arrive Friday by 3pm. I hope you can get it packaged and shipped as soon as possible after you get the money. Also just to be sure the filament transformer is there its the power transformer which is missing.

73
Joe


Adams, Charles
Nov 20 (2 days ago)

to Joe
Correct. The power transformer is missing.
Randy

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
I wish you would have said something. Anyway the cashiers check will arrive Friday by 3pm. I hope you can get it packaged and shipped as soon as possible after you get the money. Also just to be sure the filament transformer is there its the power transformer which is missing.

73
Joe

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
I would have sent you a paypal
You need to wait at least a day for a response
Thanks
Randy

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:48:30 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
I have priority mailed you a cashiers check in the amount of 590.00. It is very difficult to contact you.
Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:
That should be fine. Sorry about not returning your emails asap I am very busy. I work 60 hr a week.
Randy

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
Ok

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Tue, [email protected]> wrote:
Why don't you give me a call
513-479-4188

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

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On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
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[email protected]
Nov 20 (2 days ago)

to Joe
I would have sent you a paypal
You need to wait at least a day for a response
Thanks
Randy

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:48:30 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
I have priority mailed you a cashiers check in the amount of 590.00. It is very difficult to contact you.
Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:
That should be fine. Sorry about not returning your emails asap I am very busy. I work 60 hr a week.
Randy

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
Ok

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Tue, [email protected]> wrote:
Why don't you give me a call
513-479-4188

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
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Charles Randy Adams NT8N
Nov 19 (3 days ago)

to Joe
That should be fine. Sorry about not returning your emails asap I am very busy. I work 60 hr a week.
Randy

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:15:06 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Randy,
I'm priority mailing to you a check for 590.00. Please ship fedex ground.

Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:
Ok

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Tue, [email protected]> wrote:
Why don't you give me a call
513-479-4188

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
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[email protected]
Nov 18 (4 days ago)

to Joe
Make it $550 plus actual shipping and it a deal. I did not have time to check the transformer.

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Charles Randy Adams NT8N
Nov 18 (4 days ago)

to Joe
Ok

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:28:34 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Randy,
I think I'll pass.
Thank you,
Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:
Why don't you give me a call
513-479-4188

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
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oe ne6v <[email protected]>
Nov 18 (4 days ago)

to Charles, joe
Dear Charles Randy Adams NT8N,

You have received a response to your ad, titled "FS Ameritron ALS-1500", that you have running on the QTH.COM Free Ham Radio Classified Ads.

BEFORE GOING ANY FURTHER, you are highly encouraged to:
1) Read our Scam Warnings and Safe Trading Tips at http://tips.qth.com.
2) Use our Feedback Forum to see if the person you are about to deal with has any good or bad feedback from previous dealings. See http://feedback.qth.com

The response is from:

Name: joe
Callsign: NE6V
E-mail: [email protected]
IP Address: 24.205.20.62 -- (Check IP at http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/24.205.20.62)

The response is:

Hi Randy,
I called you I checked the mfj website the transformer is 800.00 for that amp. So I'll give you 500.00 for the amp.
Joe

--------------------------------------------------------
For your reference, here is a copy of the ad you are responding to:

Listing Number: 1165095
Date Ad was Placed: 11/15/14
Name: Charles Randy Adams
Phone Number: 51-479-4188
Callsign: NT8N
Category: AMPHF
Heading: FS Ameritron ALS-1500
Ad Message:
For Sale Ameritron AL-1500 very good condition. Less tube and Transformer.
Looks like new. Sale or Trade for Rig solid state amp Qrp Ect.
Send offer
NT8N


Charles Randy Adams NT8N
Nov 17 (5 days ago)

to Joe
Why don't you give me a call
513-479-4188

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:56:37 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Charles,
I went on the fedex site and shipping to me ground should be about, 46.00. So if you'll accept 1250.00 via usps mo I'll express mail it to you in the morning.
Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

[email protected]
Nov 17 (5 days ago)

to Joe
I will take photos and let you know when I post them to qth. I am not the original owner
The amp is like new but has one small mark that I will put in the photo
No boxes
PayPal or money order
NT8N

Sent from my iPhone using Mail+ for Outlook

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:28:00 EST, Joe Vega <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello
What is the condition of the amp? Do you have the boxes for it? Does it have the Peter Dahl xmfr? Are you the original owner? Sorry for all the questions.
Joe

On [email protected]> wrote:

Joe
$1200 plus actual shipping
NT8N
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ne6vjoe
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Re: NT8N-Charles Randy Adams-Bad Deal-Lies

Post by ne6vjoe »

He has received my cashiers check his email I'm attaching below in which he acknowledges such, but to date I can't get a response as to if in deed he has sent it BACK!! Take note he did in previously sent emails state the qrz.com address was no good but that's the address I priority mailed him the check to! This guy has stated one lie after another and I don't know whats true!


Re: Al1500
Inbox
x

Adams, Charles
Nov 25 (2 days ago)

to me
I received your check and will put it in the mail back to you tomorrow.

Randy NT8N

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM, ME <[email protected]> wrote:
According to the post office my check was delivered yesterday. did you get it?
Joe

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Charles R Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
Typo QRZ.COM

From: ME [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:55 PM
To: Charles R Adams
Subject: Re: Al1500

What qth address? I used qrz.com are you that out of it that you don't even know what I'm referring to? Sir, what is wrong with you your mind is in the clouds do you use drugs or something? you are getting emails all confused and now websites. I never said I used a qth.com address I said I used your qrz.com address, the one in Hamilton, OH. Your mind is so out of it you get everything confused that's how you screwed up this deal between you and I.
Wake up pay attention.
joe
[email protected]
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Re: NT8N-Charles Randy-Bad Deal-

Post by NT8N »

I really do not want to get into a arguing match. But This is my reputation. I did sell the amp to Joe, but he back out and I went ahead and sold it to someone ease. In fact he sent two emails telling me this:


Joe Vega <[email protected]>
Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM
To: "Adams, Charles" <[email protected]>
Hi Randy,
I think I'll pass.
Thank you,
Joe
Then again he sent

Joe Vega
Nov 23 (7 days ago)
to me
Randy
You are a shady person and can not be trusted. You knew I was sending you the check and you agreed on the amount of shipping fees I was including. You are just trying to justify your unethical and shady actions. You flat out lied about this whole deal. I doubt the amp is in the condition you say it is.
As I previously sent to you return my check and include the 80.30 and then we are done. If you do not make this right I will do whatever I need to in order to collect what you or your employer owe me. ITT will be made aware of this deal with property of the schools which you are selling.


He told me that he had ordered a transformer for the amp before he received the amplifier. Who does this? He has harassed me with email calling me just about everything you can think of, and more. I did receive his check, did not open it, and sent it back to him signature requested. He sent this check without asking anything. We had not made the deal final. He sent it to my QRZ address. The street number is was wrong. I live in the same duplex. good for him and received the check and returned it. I do not deal like this I am a honest person and try to treat people as I would like to be treated.
There have been quite a few people emailing me telling me they have had problems with Joe and to post something here. I don't like to do this but I don't like to be accused of something I did not do either. I have the return post on the check dated,if you would like to see it.
ne6vjoe
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Re: NT8N-Charles Randy-Bad Deal-

Post by ne6vjoe »

Randy,
you are shady and I really like how you picked 2 emails out of countless emails I sent you. If you did sell the amp to me then why did you FINALLY return my cashiers check. I have posted many emails which the readers can read and figure it out for themselves. You are VERY SLOW at returning emails if at ALL. COMMUNICATION is very important and you lack quality very much.

The reason you didn't sell it to was you got more money from someone else!! Now that's the truth. I have sitting here in my room a BRAND NEW transformer which I ordered for the amp. You and I had a phone conversation regarding the need for a transformer and that's why I ordered it. I truly believed in my heart that I was buyer of the amp, but you backed out because you WERE GREEDY and wanted MORE money!!

So you used an old email to back out. That is proven by the date and time of emails. Remember you thought I didn't have your address, but funny isn't it my express mail cashiers check got to you.

Randy you are a real winner and anyone who buys from you should be prepared for your lies and greed!
Joe
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