First off, it has been evident from the very start of this thread that you have determined that Steve is guilty of theft. You have been browbeating him and worse from the very first post. And that is self-evident, IMHO, to anyone who reads this thread as a disinterested third party. WRONG, only asked for proof of tracking, receipt of payment, anything
Second: It is because of THAT attitude that you have demonstrated in your posts that I started the "Raked Over The Coals" thread over on the Island of Misfit Hams. There's no need to be "cute" over it. You want to deal in facts? Then why be disengenous over that? Like your post said on the forum "I was demanding a refund" Total BS and still haven't demanded a refund.
Third: I have no direct knowledge of the transaction. I do not know Steve... he is a friendly acquaintance, but I am certainly not his "Good Buddy." I dislike intensely the implication that his friends are blindly supporting him and the related implication that we don't know that he's fooling us. Go back and see how all of the group followed your lead with none of the REAL facts. BTW, your name or call was never mentioned.
For all I know, as it turns out, you may be entirely right. I certainly hope not, as Steve is a (from what I know) a good guy. But I don't know.
Fourth... neither do you. And THAT is the point of the other thread. You are absolutely correct I don't know, so how does one find out other than request information?
You are basing these accusations, and they are serious ones, on what you've been told by another set of amateurs in another country. They may well be right, but you don't KNOW. You say you called the Post Office? I find that quite interesting... my wife's ex is a postal carrier, and from what he tells me, you should not have been told what you said you were. So did someone just say anything to get you off the phone? Did you talk to the right branch? Do you actually KNOW? I have dealt with the person in questions for 3 years with no problem like this. There is 2 branches in Rice Lake and 1 is a drop site that does not do customs (per Cory @ Rice Lake PO) and the other is where Cory works. She returned the call after approx. 45 minutes and responded with no packages had left that PO to anywhere in Europe.
This is not a court of law. But this should not be a venue for potential slander, either. Look at all the negative posts on this forum and tell if you see anything other than so & so is not to be trusted or so & so is a crook or a scammer, etc. and that was not done here. But getting close.
The FACTS are that Steve said he shipped an item to another country, and it hasn't turned up yet.
The FACTS are that Adrian has asked you on his behalf to intercede with Steve.
And the FACT is that you are proceeding to rake Steve over the coals (my phrasing) in a public forum -- here -- to try and embarress him into refunding the amount in question. And have been doing so for weeks. I'm just trying to get STEVE to do SOMETHING, he hasen't done ANYTHING to resolve it. I would be willing to bet he never spoke with the PO in WI, but it can be proven but he does not do anything to help his case.
I can not defend whether or not Steve did as he says. I certainly hope he did, but I don't know. And neither do you, but you choose to believe otherwise.
Fine. You've made your point.
While I can't defend what Steve did or didn't do, I do take issue with how YOU have gone about it. THAT is the point of the IOMH threads.
And I will repeat here what I said there... based on your actions and comments in this thread, frankly, I would not ever want to deal with you. If I sold you a widgit and you weren't happy about something, even if it was something beyond my control (like a delivery issue with a carrier), would I be seeing my reputation trashed until I submitted to your demands? No thanks. Sorry, you won't find anthing that even ressembles what you are insinuating on my record but only to the contrary Ron.[/quote]
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