W1JCW is to be avoided

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W1JCW is to be avoided

Post by KG0MN » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:10 am

Everything I have to say can be verified by emails I sent and have received. It started out simply enough, he had a base for a Hustler vertical for sale that I was interested in buying and I sent him the following email.

Me:--> If you accept paypal send me your account email address and I will send the money

Him: -->I am not set up on paypal, if you like just send a check and I'm sure that I can trust you. If you want to send a MO that’s fine too, but it doesn't have to be Postal.

Me: -->Thanks for the trouble but since I am ordering some items from DX Engineering the cost is within 2 dollars of theirs and I can use my paypal credit card to pay for the items so I will pass and says thanks for your trouble.

When I tell him I will pass he emails me back say "oh wait i can open a paypal account for you to pay with. I never bothered to answer him since I had ordered the part from DX Engineering, and man am I glad I did.

So that should have been the end of it, but ooh no next I get an email from him calling me Dumb S.O.B. and a liar. I am at a lose for words since I never made any promises to him to buy squat. Then he turns around and claims I offered him a Brand New 50' Rohn 25 tower I had advertised here for less than what I was asking for it. To start with I have never spoken to him about this tower and now I realize he is man with a scam or perhaps he just is not right in the head. Either way be careful he maybe cussing at you next.

This is just to good to be made up.

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Post by lhk0pd » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:15 am

Must say from what you have shown there was no need for the name calling or the anger. I had a similar situation just the other day but it ended up very politely. I was interested in a Gentlemans item and ask for total cost and if he accepted Pay Pal. He said no as he had a bad experience with them once,and i replied i prefered to pay with pay pal so i would pass on the item. He handled it the way yours should have been handled,he thanked me for my interest and that was that. It is apparent John W1JCW has a temper problem when turned down but over all his feed back is very good out side of a couple of bad reports.
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Don't lie and waste others time.

Post by W1JCW » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:48 pm

Once again another clown who says they want something, you get it ready to go and spend time packing and they back out.

I was trying to be accommodating by setting up a paypal account, that is called going out of my way something you don't know anything about but wasting my time then nickel and dime me.

The guy had a tower deal for sale he was asking $600 I offered him $400 and
he didn't like my offer. Now he is asking $400 for the deal. So there you go the guy wont take $400 when I offer it but then drops his price and lies about it.

If I had an anger problem I would have made a post here that the guy wasted my time about the hustler and so forth but I did not.

So to bad you don't like be called a liar, that was in email and was the truth.

That's it end of subject go sell you tower and lie to someone else.

Sure looks like to me by my feed back that others don't have an issue but for some reason you have a problem, could it be because I called you out.

Further more as others have stated, there was NO transaction via qth so
this post does not belong. If you have an issue with someone take it up with
them offline. That was a quote from the mods, so send me some email or give me a call and we can discuss this further. I would be more then happy to speak with you further..


That's it end of subject go sell you tower and lie to someone else.

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Re: Don't lie and waste others time.

Post by K9XR » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:12 pm

John, you really didn't have a paypal account but you would open one for this transaction?
W1JCW wrote:Once again another clown who says they want something, you get it ready to go and spend time packing and they back out.

I was trying to be accommodating by setting up a paypal account, that is called going out of my way something you don't know anything about but wasting my time then nickel and dime me.

The guy had a tower deal for sale he was asking $600 I offered him $400 and
he didn't like my offer. Now he is asking $400 for the deal. So there you go the guy wont take $400 when I offer it but then drops his price and lies about it.

If I had an anger problem I would have made a post here that the guy wasted my time about the hustler and so forth but I did not.

So to bad you don't like be called a liar, that was in email and was the truth.

That's it end of subject go sell you tower and lie to someone else.

Sure looks like to me by my feed back that others don't have an issue but for some reason you have a problem, could it be because I called you out.

Further more as others have stated, there was NO transaction via qth so
this post does not belong. If you have an issue with someone take it up with
them offline. That was a quote from the mods, so send me some email or give me a call and we can discuss this further. I would be more then happy to speak with you further..


That's it end of subject go sell you tower and lie to someone else.

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Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by W1ATP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:13 pm

According to all the posts and feed back W1JCW has here and other wise he is a stand up guy.

I would deal with W1JCW with out hesitation.

It would seem he called this guy KG0MN out and he doesn't like it.
He also called KG0MN out and did not involve this forum which is the way
to go about it.

I would suggest KG0MN get his act together, don't waste others time and if you have an issue with someone take it off line. As it's indicated there was no transaction via this forum then there is no reason to post any feed back for or against.

I have read several posts on this feed back forum and it's quite clear some have a lack of common courtesy and lack of respect for others time and effort.

KG0MN you have no grounds to post anything about a NON transaction, you are lucky W1JCW does not sue you for liable.


W1ATP

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Post by KG0MN » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:30 pm

this guy just can't keep his story straight. Yes I did have the tower for sale for 600.00 but that included a house bracket and new heavy duty thrust bearing plate and a new rotor plate. I sold those items to a local guy and then listed the tower for $400.00. Why the hell would I sell a brand new 50' rohn tower with over 400.00 of accessories for $400.00? My reply to him was don't insult me with that price.

Here is the first ad dummy

Listing Number: 851127
Date Ad was Placed: 09/01/10
Name: Kevin Elliott
Phone Number: E-MAIL ONLY
Callsign: KG0MN
Category: TOWER
Heading: Rohn 25 50' Tower
Ad Message:
The tower and accessories are located in Saint Paul, MN
<-------------------------------------------------------->
The tower is composed of the following items.
1 - ROHN 25G 9' Top Cap Tower Section R-25AG (New)
4 - ROHN 25G 10' Main Tower Section R-25G (New)
1 - ROHN 25G Tower 5' Short Concrete Base Section R-SB25G5
1 - ROHN 25G Heavy Duty Top Cap Thrust Bearing Plate
1 - ROHN 25G Accessory Rotor Shelf R-AS25G (New)
1 - Rohn 15" adjustable house bracket (New)
<-------------------------------------------------------->
Price $600.00
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the second ad dummy which is still active here.

New Rohn 50 Foot Tower
This is a new tower and has never been installed:
The tower is composed of the following items.
1 - ROHN 25G 9' Top Cap Tower Section
4 - ROHN 25G 10' Main Tower Section
1 - ROHN 25G Tower 5' Short Concrete Base Section
price is $400.00 or might trade for ham radio item of similar value.
Listing #852509 - Submitted on 09/07/10 by Callsign KG0MN

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As for the huster mast part he is just mad because I did not buy it and is now acting like a spoiled moron who thinks he can bully others.
Here are the entire emails now show me where I said I was going to buy it.


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Kevin Elliott <kg0mn>
To: W1JCW <W1JCW>
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 1:41:08 PM
Subject: Re: New Base section BTV

John

Thanks for the trouble but since I am ordering some items from DX Engineering the cost is within 2 dollars of theirs and I can use my paypal credit card to pay for the items so I will pass and says thanks for your trouble.

Kevin

From: W1JCW <W1JCW>
To: Kevin Elliott <kg0mn>
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:55 AM
Subject: New Base section BTV

Kevin -

You may know my good friend John Pierson in St Cloud KD0HSF ?

Shipping is actually cheaper vis USPS $13.85

Total $58.85

John

From: W1JCW
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:10 PM
To: Kevin Elliott
Subject: Re: New Base section BTV

By the way on the funds -

I am not set up on paypal, if you like just send a check and I'm sure that I can trust you.

If you want to send a MO that’s fine too, but it doesn't have to be Postal.

John


From: Kevin Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:44 PM
To: W1JCW
Subject: Re: New Base section BTV

Yes I am good on QRZ zip code is 55105.

From: W1JCW <W1JCW>
To: Kevin Elliott KG0MN <kg0mn>
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 3:02:45 PM
Subject: New Base section BTV

Kevin -

I would have to check shipping price on it.

Are you good on qrz I will check shipping ??

John


> Name: Kevin Elliott
> Callsign: KG0MN
> E-mail: kg0mn@yahoo.com
>
> The response is:
>
> If you accept paypal send me your account email address and I will send
> the money
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> For your reference, here is a copy of the ad you are responding to:
>
> Listing Number: 844753
> Date Ad was Placed: 08/05/10
> Name: John Walker
> Phone Number: 972.345.4368
> Callsign: W1JCW
> Category: ANTHF
> Heading: FS: New Base section BTV
> Ad Message:
> Replacement Insulated Base Section, for BTV 4, 5 & 6.
> http://www.dxengineering.com/Products.a ... 6&DeptID=8
> Asking $45 plus shipping

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next email

Post by K9XR » Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:16 pm

I would like to see john's next email to you if there was one

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by K9XR » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:27 pm

HMMMM,

I think I am starting to detect a pattern here, or maybe 2 patterns


W1ATP wrote:According to all the posts and feed back W1JCW has here and other wise he is a stand up guy.

I would deal with W1JCW with out hesitation.

It would seem he called this guy KG0MN out and he doesn't like it.
He also called KG0MN out and did not involve this forum which is the way
to go about it.

I would suggest KG0MN get his act together, don't waste others time and if you have an issue with someone take it off line. As it's indicated there was no transaction via this forum then there is no reason to post any feed back for or against.

I have read several posts on this feed back forum and it's quite clear some have a lack of common courtesy and lack of respect for others time and effort.

KG0MN you have no grounds to post anything about a NON transaction, you are lucky W1JCW does not sue you for liable.


W1ATP

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by W1JCW » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:39 pm

[quote="K9XR"]HMMMM,

I think I am starting to detect a pattern here, or maybe 2 patterns


Yes me too..

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by KA9MOT » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:40 pm

K9XR wrote:HMMMM,

I think I am starting to detect a pattern here, or maybe 2 patterns


W1ATP wrote:According to all the posts and feed back W1JCW has here and other wise he is a stand up guy.

I would deal with W1JCW with out hesitation.

It would seem he called this guy KG0MN out and he doesn't like it.
He also called KG0MN out and did not involve this forum which is the way
to go about it.

I would suggest KG0MN get his act together, don't waste others time and if you have an issue with someone take it off line. As it's indicated there was no transaction via this forum then there is no reason to post any feed back for or against.

I have read several posts on this feed back forum and it's quite clear some have a lack of common courtesy and lack of respect for others time and effort.

KG0MN you have no grounds to post anything about a NON transaction, you are lucky W1JCW does not sue you for liable.


W1ATP
I noticed that as well........You mean other than the fact that we have two 1 land calls, they both live in Texas, exactly 18 miles apart.

Surely you are not suggesting they are tag teaming us are you? I think it is Pure Coincidence.... Yup....completely innocent.
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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by W1JCW » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:03 pm

[/quote]

I noticed that as well........You mean other " thnn " the fact that we have "to" 1 land calls, they both live in Texas, exactly 18 miles apart.

Surely you are not suggesting they are tag teaming us are you? I think it is Pure Coincidence.... Yup....completely innocent.[/quote]

I noticed that as well....I mean guys like you sticking your noise into old threads bumping them up for no reason. It doesn't matter who makes what comments on these posts. What does matter is that you need to get a life and mind your own business. I don't see either of your calls associated with this issue. Surely you are not suggesting anything but minding your own business. Yep...completely innocent about sticking your noise into others business sure thing.

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by KA9MOT » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:06 pm

W1JCW wrote:
I noticed that as well........You mean other " thnn " the fact that we have "to" 1 land calls, they both live in Texas, exactly 18 miles apart.

Surely you are not suggesting they are tag teaming us are you? I think it is Pure Coincidence.... Yup....completely innocent.[/quote]

I noticed that as well....I mean guys like you sticking your noise into old threads bumping them up for no reason. It doesn't matter who makes what comments on these posts. What does matter is that you need to get a life and mind your own business. I don't see either of your calls associated with this issue. Surely you are not suggesting anything but minding your own business. Yep...completely innocent about sticking your noise into others business sure thing.[/quote]

Thanks for pointing out my typos. The rest is a "9" land thing....we live to close to Chicago and understand that not all is as it seems. Even down there in Tejas.
Steve - KA9MOT

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by K9XR » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:34 pm

Yep, and W1ATP has made a grand total of 3 posts and believe it or not, all 3 are in support of W1JCW. Yep, pure coincidence.

John, when you post your BS here, you make this our business. And don't even mention "bumping" threads.

It's really a shame some guys think they are smarter than everybody else, and even a bigger shame when they Bitch because they are called out on it.

I will say that it IS a good thing when these threads point out a "hot head" on a pretty consistent basis.

That's one of the patterns I was referring to!

No John, It is the truth that matters rather it favors you or not. It's pretty obvious that if we were posting lies that were in your favor, it would be perfectly fine with you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way for you or anyone else.



W1JCW wrote:
I noticed that as well........You mean other " thnn " the fact that we have "to" 1 land calls, they both live in Texas, exactly 18 miles apart.

Surely you are not suggesting they are tag teaming us are you? I think it is Pure Coincidence.... Yup....completely innocent.[/quote]

I noticed that as well....I mean guys like you sticking your noise into old threads bumping them up for no reason. It doesn't matter who makes what comments on these posts. What does matter is that you need to get a life and mind your own business. I don't see either of your calls associated with this issue. Surely you are not suggesting anything but minding your own business. Yep...completely innocent about sticking your noise into others business sure thing.[/quote]

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by W1JCW » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:06 pm

What are you calling me out about Al ? You sticking your noise into others business or your no life BS you are starting here ??

The only BS is you sticking your noise into others business and causing a thread like this to be trashed in the first place. I will mention bumping threads all I want so go back into your hole.

Who said anything about being smarter ? Only you are saying these things
and want to start something like this. No one asked for your input and if the deal doesn't involve you then flake off.

No one wants or cares about your crap and your big mouth.

They want to hear both sides of a deal whether good or bad.

I will say one thing as well, these threads point out a noisy, have no life piece of crap such as yourself.

I have all kinds of good feed back and provide the same, and if I have an issue I make a post as well.

What I don't do is stick my noise into other threads and stir a pot when it's not my business.

So keep it up and lets see where this goes. It will get locked in no time.

Go find another thread to scrutinize and throw your negative no life comments in.

No Al, It is the truth that matters if it favors you or not. It's not about your BS and comments.

You are so far off now you cannot find your head up your ass.

Next !

K9XR wrote:Yep, and W1ATP has made a grand total of 3 posts and believe it or not, all 3 are in support of W1JCW. Yep, pure coincidence.

John, when you post your BS here, you make this our business. And don't even mention "bumping" threads.

It's really a shame some guys think they are smarter than everybody else, and even a bigger shame when they Bitch because they are called out on it.

II will say that it IS a good thing when these threads point out a "hot head" on a pretty consistent basis.

That's one of the patterns I was referring to!

No John, It is the truth that matters rather it favors you or not. It's pretty obvious that if we were posting lies that were in your favor, it would be perfectly fine with you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way for you or anyone else.
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Post by K9XR » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:21 pm

John, my post speaks for itself and so does yours. I suppose I could have a lot more feedback if I were to ask for it as you do. One thing for sure, you have a lot more NEGATIVE feedback than most. Maybe you should try to live by the rules you expect others to live by. Yep, Next!

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Post by W1JCW » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:35 pm

Albert -

My post speaks for itself when I don't take crap from someone like you.
Any feed back I do have is from dealing with the masses some are straight shooters and some are not thus the scares from not taking any crap.

Your post doesn't speak for anything but someone who has no life and sticks their noise into others business. To bad you met someone who doesn't sit back let you rant on your soap box and put others down.

Maybe you should try to live by the rules and mind your own business and worry about your own house.

Back to you...

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Re: Stand up guy W1JCW

Post by W4LTD » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:40 pm

W1JCW wrote: They want to hear both sides of a deal weather good or bad.
Don't you mean whether?

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NO, Never

Post by K9XR » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:19 am

It must just be the way we are reading it.
W4LTD wrote:
W1JCW wrote: They want to hear both sides of a deal weather good or bad.
Don't you mean whether?

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Post by K9XR » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:00 am

and the hits just keep on coming!!!


From: W1JCW <W1JCW>
To: Kevin Elliott <kg0mn>
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 11:25:55 AM
Subject: New Base section BTV

Kevin -

You may know my good friend John Pierson in St Cloud KD0HSF ?

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Still no life Al K9XR

Post by W1JCW » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:59 pm

K9XR wrote:and the hits just keep on coming!!!

Kevin -

You may know my good friend John Pierson in St Cloud KD0HSF ?
This shows I have friends in MN too. So what clown.

Al you may know my good friend as well, called get a life piece of crap Al K9XR needs to mind his own business and stop hijacking threads he has no business or part of.

Have your heard of need to get a life Al K9XR ??

Crawl back into your hole Al and go add your worthless life of 2 cents else where.

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Post by VE3TMT » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:30 pm

Somebody should write Jerry Springer and suggest this for an upcoming show.

"Are you a ham radio operator who has been ripped off by another ham radio operator? If so, and are going to be in the Los Angeles area, we'd like to hear from you."

No wonder this "hobby" is going to hell in a hand basket!

Happy hammin'

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Post by W1JCW » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:55 pm

Another clown with nothing constructive to add.

Why did you even make a post retard ?

This was quieting down but you wanted to stir the pot ?

VE3TMT wrote:Somebody should write Jerry Springer and suggest this for an upcoming show.

"Are you a ham radio operator who has no life and likes to add worthless attributes ? If so, and are going to be in the Los Angeles area, we'd like to hear from you."

No wonder this "hobby" is going to hell in a hand basket!

Happy hammin'
73 -

W1JCW
John

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Post by VE3TMT » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:50 pm

Quieting down????

One ham posts a complaint against another ham for a deal gone bad. Said ham responds and before you know it ten others have jumped in and the name calling begins. And most of the time the thread go so far off topic, everyone is just too damn busy insulting the other ham. I thought this was supposed to be a hobby!

John, I made a comment, constructive or not, more of a joke actually, and you reply back calling me a clown and a retard. I mentioned no call signs in my post, you simply took it upon yourself to assume it was directed at you.

Chill out man, enjoy life

:lol:

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Post by W1JCW » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:12 pm

VE3TMT wrote:Quieting down????

One ham posts a complaint against another ham for a deal gone bad. Said ham responds and before you know it ten others have jumped in and the name calling begins. And most of the time the thread go so far off topic, everyone is just too damn busy insulting the other ham. I thought this was supposed to be a hobby!

I agree with you here. If someone had a life and did not jump in with BS comments it would not have gone this far.

John, I made a comment, constructive or not, more of a joke actually, and you reply back calling me a clown and a retard. I mentioned no call signs in my post, you simply took it upon yourself to assume it was directed at you.

Chill out man, enjoy life

:lol:
I don't need to chill out man, I am calm and doing fine thank you.

This post was down on the list and all the comments had stopped then started it up again. Just as the other post, if Al would shut his mouth this would go away but no he can't shut.

This is a lot of BS started because of some non related comments by a noisy no life ham.

I am sure these people have better things to do then continue reading this crap.

Chilling now.. :lol:

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Post by K9XR » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:18 pm

Yep, that's right John, This is all my fault. You seem to forget that you are the one who started 2 of these 3 threads simply to retaliate. And WHO can't shut his mouth. You expect to be able to bad mouth everyone with you vile mouth and you think it should go unchecked. I guess most HOT HEADS think that way, Huh, John?

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