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W1CIA-BEWARE OF
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:33 am
by N2UY/1
Beware of dealing with this individual. He misrepresents the gear and when asked questions about the gear he does not tell the truth. The rig was stated"Heath HW16 HF 10-160 HF Transceiver in like new condition, manual $175. My reply was "As a collector, if it is really in like new condition, works well, no scratches, dings, cosmetic imperfections, I would like to purchase the rig. I am a little confused, you say the unit is 10-160 but the HW-16 was a novice CW rig that did 80, 40, and 15."
W1CIA reply "10-160 was a typo, It is an 80,40, 15 M CW rig in excellent condition."
The rig arrived after excessive delay( as posted by another in this forum on another transaction). The HW-16 is only in fair maybe fair to good condition.
It does not work on 80 m, has rust on the top, rust on the front plate along the top,several chips and scratcheds on the top, and mild corrosion on the chassis. The top is bowed downward. This is a $50 rig. In no stretch of anybody's immagination is this a like new rig. Mike N2UY
When dealing on the Internet, Insist on Pictures!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:38 pm
by K4ICL
Folks,
One of the greatest variables we face when dealing on the Internet is the opinions of sellers when assessing the worth and/or condition of their offerings.
One person's assessment of the condition of equipment will not always be the same as another's; nor always will it be accurate.
Potential buyers should always INSIST on receiving appropriate, quality high resolution images of the actual item(s) being offered.
If the seller does not provide the images you need to see, in detail, what you are buying, back away from the deal.
If you are a seller using the Internet and you don't have a camera or don't know how to use it, get some help making the appropriate images for your potential buyers.
"I can't provide images." is NOT and acceptable excuse!
Images copied from other Internet sites and are NOT of the actual item(s) being offered are NOT acceptable--they are useless.
Bottom line-- no pixs, no deal... Works every time.
Nuff Said...
K4ICL
Re: When dealing on the Internet, Insist on Pictures!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:00 pm
by lasernerd KE7VDP
K4ICL wrote:Folks,
One of the greatest variables we face when dealing on the Internet is the opinions of sellers when assessing the worth and/or condition of their offerings.
One person's assessment of the condition of equipment will not always be the same as another's; nor always will it be accurate.
Potential buyers should always INSIST on receiving appropriate, quality high resolution images of the actual item(s) being offered.
If the seller does not provide the images you need to see, in detail, what you are buying, back away from the deal.
If you are a seller using the Internet and you don't have a camera or don't know how to use it, get some help making the appropriate images for your potential buyers.
"I can't provide images." is NOT and acceptable excuse!
Images copied from other Internet sites and are NOT of the actual item(s) being offered are NOT acceptable--they are useless.
Bottom line-- no pixs, no deal... Works every time.
Nuff Said...
K4ICL
QFT!
W1CIA-BEWARE OF
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:40 pm
by N2UY/1
All the pictures in the world does not mean anything. Pictures are easily altered or taken from the internet or stock. A direct question with specific questions as to scratches cosmetic flaws and working condition was asked.
The answer was not representative the equipment. What makes you think a picture would be any more accurate? A misrepesentation of equipment is a misrepresentation of equipment whether by written word or a picture. There are few who would argue as to what like new means. It does not mean an abused parially working rig. Mike N2UY
If you can afford it...
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:00 pm
by K4ICL
What makes you think a picture would be any more accurate?
I don't know, perhaps if I can see it I can determine if it was run over by a truck.
All the pictures in the world does not mean anything.
When someone provides a picture that is NOT the item for sale or fakes the image in any way, you have PROOF of his/her fraud.
The issue keeping people honest, an unfortunate reality on the Internet. Use of images/pictures is a VERY strong lever to thwart cheating, not perfect, but very strong.
What have you got when he lies about the equipment and you are holding nothing to show that he lied? You have a piece of junk you did not want and little or no recourse to reverse the deal and get your money back.
But, you do it your way if I makes you feel better. As for myself, I can't affort it.
K4ICL
WICIA Beware of
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:34 pm
by N2UY/1
K4ICL , Albert is a very honest man, I have purchased many Hammarlund Radios from him and he has always given the condition in the most accurate of terms. I have been most pleased with the transactions, and have told him. If all traders were of this quality there would be no problems.
I do not understand how a picture is any more proof of an untruth than is the written word. I takes very little time, knowledge, or software to greatly alter an image today. The term like new is a very clear term, with the term questioned by me to the seller. The e-mail is also proof of an untruth, and so is the listing. A picture cannot show a non working or partially working radio.
Most traders I have experienced have been very honest, and if anything overstate any flaws, so nobody can say they did not properly represent the items. Mike N2UY