Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

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K6TLA
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Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by K6TLA » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:34 pm

Qth has long been my favorite venue for ham radio equipment sales. It's a great source for the average ham who might be looking for something or have something to pass on. The site has largely been taken over by what appears to be businesses using QTH as a free advertising venue for what is in reality a commercial operation. Let's look at the callsigns associated with these businesses. All are frequent, repetitive posters and have far more equipment to sell than any private ham could ever have. Callsigns of the obvious businesses include W8EK, K3DUA, W4JST, KK4WS, K4WSB, W8CRH, WY4A, WB2IMH and several others. W8EK gets the all time award for most frequent, repetitive, overly spacious, unreasonably descriptive, and overall annoying blather of ads. A person must also question whether these volume dealers are paying state and federal taxes on the proceeds of their businesses. The shear volume of what they offer would make one think they should be. Maybe the answer here is a separate section for dealers. Personally I wouldn't touch anything from the above named callsigns and others with a ten foot pole. It would be nice to have the option of seeing or not seeing what they are pushing and leaving the rest of the site to the private hams it should be intended for.

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by n3ab » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:08 am

Well said and so true. The sad part is there is no way to filter these sellers to avoid reading the ongoing repetitive ads. What's worse is the lack of photos.

I like to browse the ads on a regular basis, but when I hit the "W8" ads, I just move to another category. Anyone who listed before "W8" lost a potential sale.

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by K6TLA » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:48 am

What's interesting is that the W8 mentioned can and does post pictures of some of what he sells. Take a look at the Craigslist ham radio ads for Ocala, Florida and the postings listed under Northwest Marion County. There you will see photos from the W8 of some of what is listed on QTH. You know it is the same poster because the item descriptions used on QTH are identical in the Craigslist posts.

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by kw3u » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:29 pm

while I still like qth and use it, it is sad to see your posting buried under a 100
posts from these dealers in a day, resulting in few if any responses .
QRZ now has verified only for posting and a pix required plus a limit on posting.
really nice but i prefer the format here.
and yes i would never buy from the dealers that have no shame and continue to do this.
Jim kw3u

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by n3ab » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:46 am

Easy night tonight. Went to the "miscellaneous" section. First thing I hit was the ongoing W8 ads. Moved on to eHam. Sorry to anyone who had listings. You may have lost a sale

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by WY4A11 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:27 pm

I like to buy and sell radios online and I'm well known here in fla and all over I attend hamfests when im able to ,Shelby nc and stone mt ga are some favorites .... I DO PAY TAXES PayPal/ebay---I have an eBay store- wy4a ham radio sales -sends me a 1099 every year .im also a business owner of a cleaning company here in fla and I donate to qth.com as well thanks Pedro wy4a all my ads have pics and I have great feedback on the internet

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by n3ab » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:40 pm

Pedro, I wouldn't get too upset over this topic. You sell nice gear at fair prices, and you always have good pictures. I think I may have purchased from you before, and I would not hesitate to purchase from you in the future.

I feel the same way about WB2IMH. He and I did business with no issues.

In my opinion, the core of the problem is the W8 station.

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by WY4A11 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:33 am

thank you JOHN I understand what he means I've shifted most of my sales to my bay store and qrz but still posting here on qth only a few ads , I do sell good equipment and stand behind everything I sell and NO as is or part swappers in my ads . I only have 2 radios in my shack a pristine drake b line and an icon ic 7600 far less than what most people have an a alpha 76a 2 tube amp very modest station . thanks again Pedro WY4A
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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by wb2imh » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:38 pm

Just a short note to let everyone here understand that I am not a business. I have been collecting radio equipment for over 50 years and I have an extensive collection that I must sell due to an anticipated move to another state. Everyone who has visited my home to purchase equipment can attest that I am not a business and that I never was. I would think someone would be sure of his or her accusations before posting this falsehood.
And a thank you goes out to everyone who has helped me thin out my collection. 73, ~Ernie~ wb2imh

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by n3ab » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:33 am

Ernie is a good guy. Good old fashioned ham trader!
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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by k9vt » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:29 pm

I seldom ever react to any of the non sense that goes online. K6LTA this is non sense. First off W8EK does have a lot of listings but is doing a service to widows of silent keys. I have known WY4A personally for years. You could not find a more decent honest man ! I am sure there are stories behind each of the call signs you listed. Don't you think if Scott thought there something shady going on it would have been addressed? Thinking back to the days of the Yellow sheets i really don't care who posts what on the sight. It's up to the buyer to do the due diligence . Social media has given us all a platform to grip and moan. Personally I would rather use that plat form to uplift a thought process and not get into other peoples lives.. SO my suggestion is radios have on / off buttons use yours.

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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by WY4A11 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:00 pm

FYI IM JUST A NORMAL HAM OPERATOR THAT HAS BEEN BUYING AND SELLING RADIO EQUIPMENT SINCE I GOT MY TICKET IN 1980 GOING TO HAMFESTS BUYING /SELLING AND HAVING FUN .I HAVE A MODEST STATION LOOK ON QRZ.I SELL GOOD RADIO EQUIPMENT AND BACK UP ALL MY SALES 100% AND I DO PAY TAXES EVERY YEAR ON MY SALES TO THE TUNE OVER 2000 DOLLARS A YEAR SO NEXT TIME SOMEONE WANTS TO POST FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT WY4A PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!! DE WY4A
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Re: Just Hams or Businesses in Disguise?

Post by ko4ma » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:13 pm

So what if they are a business? Is the pull your self up by your bootstrap America completely dead, where people ran small businesses to put food on the table or gas in the truck?

Now, posting the same HT antenna for 20 years in a 40 column post with no pics that you fished out of the trash can at the last swapmeet does get a little old.

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