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w8jn wrote:Martyn,
You have successfully been able to hide behind threatened, retaliatory feedback on Ebay. As you have painfully discovered on this and other public forums, people are not intimidated by bully tactics. People you have done business with have come out of the woodwork to stand up to you. Your NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON EBAY AND QRZ HAVE BEEN POSTED for all to see. Your harsh negative comments against others have also been posted. You can make no demands here. You have nowhere to run or hide. If you send me additional emails from your "friends" with vulgar content, I will simply post it in public for all to see how you operate. You don't intimidate me.
Happy Hoss Trading Paul w8jn

Dear Paul,
You have me at a loss re your comments with friends sending you vulgar content, I have no idea what you’re talking about nor do I have your email address, so if they are being sent through this forum may I suggest you report the messages to Scott or post them here for all to see? Just a thought.

Now, I have not hidden anywhere nor do I have to, my info is out there for all to see including my phone #, as far as hiding behind feedback, ummm the seller can’t leave negative feedback you should know that, has not been able to for quite some time now, and as far as me making demands Paul, once again what are you talking about? all I ask (not demand) is you answer the 2 questions I asked you in the posting just above this one, can you at least do that.

You see Paul, reading this posting all I see is a lot of words not actually saying anything?

Now re Mrowe, did he contact you? I hope he did then you can see that he and I are not connected with the exception that he has purchased 3 radios from me and THATS ALL, he is not a friend, buddy or anyone I have met or associated with but am grateful of his business and if he feels he would like to post a comment then he should be allowed to but not be greeted by pathetic comments from you suggesting he and I are one of the same, Paul you really have to give me some clear explanations here as to what you feel is wrong? now please answer my 2 questions in my previous posting so I can address you further because right now I see no rationality in your comments at all.

K9XR
Dear Albert, how are you?
I don’t know how PayPal treat you but I have an exceptional account manager there who makes certain I am looked after just like anyone who passes as much through their system would expect, essentially a good bank manager that’s how I see him.

Okay you did the right thing by contacting your credit card company, I would have done and have had to do exactly the same in the past, we all get bit sometimes.
So re the Drake you mentioned above, really simple, Paul made it out like I was doing something dishonest (like I am not allowed to buy, repair and resell a radio now?) and started this thread, Larry showed the forum my purchase and my new listing of the radio,, and made it out to seem I was doing something wrong?? I am not even making a profit out of the sale whenever it sells but no one has commented how full of "S" they are right? Just a bunch of waa waa from Paul and Larry has kept his comments to himself,, probably the best thing to do after what I believe he has been told by people who actually read and take notice and cut through the crap he was spilling.

Anyway back to the subject,, purchased the SW8,, Paid over $450 for it, it arrived, carefully unboxed it, wow looked new,, sold to me as new, was not new but certainly unmarked,, tested it, did not work, sent report to seller, heard nothing back, launched a eBay resolution case, seller didn’t like that but did respond, eBay told me to send it back, I did the same day,, seller issued PayPal refund,, all was cool except I was out the $31 to return it,, ah well, then 2 days later PayPal contacted me and advised the funds were not available in the sellers account and advised they could not collect so I did a UPS interception (lucky me) meantime eBay suspended sellers account and he got pretty nasty as you can see, state police are now involved, the radio came back to me (an additional $11 intercept fee) and I repaired the radio,, a pain in the rear and now have it listed.

No harm in that,, I know 100% of all people would have acted the same way as me under the circumstances.

So Larry and Paul, what are your issues with that transaction (like it is any of your business) Why Paul would you start a thread and try to twist things around to make me sound dishonest?

Anyway I am not going to give this thread much more of my time but think I have put my point across and if anyone has an issue with that then please let me know.

Albert, always a pleasure 73s

Martyn,
Here is the email you sent to me through the qth private message system with all headers identifying you as the sender. Its amazing that you would send me an email through the private email system, sign it and deny it. So for the second time here is the email with your email and the vulgar email you FORWARDED from your friend.
Paul w8jn

Below from Martyn

The following is an email sent to you by K4TEC via your account on QTH.COM. If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following address:

[email protected]

Include this full email (particularly the headers). Please note that the reply address to this email has been set to that of K4TEC.

Message sent to you follows
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Paul I mentioned your comments to my customer and he came back with

Martyn : i was to the Dr. yesterday & am trying new rx's . we'll see.
it got hot here . it's 96 today , and predicted for 98 tomorrow .
me : i wouldn't address this guy or his buddies , that's wasting energy .that's like getting a XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. they are meaningless living things , not even people .
if anything , I WOULD SAY : " GEE PAUL , I DO HOPE YOU HAVE A SPEEDY RECOVERY FROM YOUR COMPLETE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL BREAKDOWN " ... " WE ALL HERE WISH A SPEEDY RECOVERY TO YOU MATE"


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mitchell

You see Paul you are so wrong, I may just post my invitation on the forum as you have not taken the time to call me, not even toll free, why not?

I really do hope we meet one day,, do you go to a local radio club where you may feel more comfortable meeting me? I dont mind making the effort or you can come down here to one of mine, I will even meet you in a lawyers office if you think you need assistance with the rules of the law?

Maybe you would prefer just a chat on the phone? anyway I am not going to hold my breath, but my invatation is out there in private for now, I hope you make a positive step forward towards a man you dont know, have never done business with yet make unfounded comments about based on what? your logic is amazing from where I am sat.

I have forwarded my emails on to Scott the owner of this web site so as to let him know my intentions etc.

Back to you
73s
Martyn

Hello w8jn,

The following is an email sent to you by K4TEC via your account on QTH.COM. If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following address:

[email protected]

Include this full email (particularly the headers). Please note that the reply address to this email has been set to that of K4TEC.

Message sent to you follows
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Hi Paul
I have just seen some of your comments on the forum and have to ask what your problem is?

I see your only up the road, please feel free to come down to my QTH and have a look around, a chat and or a coffee, you more than welcome as I really would like to answer any questions you have about me, my company and my business practices.

You live very close to my best friend up in Hebron so if it’s not convenient for you to come here I am more than happy coming up to see you.

Please don’t take this as a threat or intimidation but the comments you have been making I do find to be offensive and if you come here to my QTH I have everything on hand to make an accurate defense of my position, for example you imply I am an Mrowe? I can tell you now I am not, never have been and never will be, I do know a Mr Rowe, I recently sold him 2 Kenwood TS-870s and a Kenwood TS-570D, and I was aware that he had posted a comment on the forum but I have to ask what gives you the right to lie and to make me look bad over some one else’s comments? Shame on you Paul, for your suggestions, some others I would expect it from but you, I would not have.

So Paul, My phone # is 859-221-8015, give me a call, lets meet and if you have any issues please don’t be shy, list them and let’s talk about them.

I had better send a copy of this email to Scott the owner of the web site so it cannot be said I am twisting things around.

It’s back to you
73s
Martyn

I did send you the 2 emails through the QTH forwarding system, I never denied that but I did deny sending you an email direct to you(as in to your direct email address)

I am sorry if you found my comments confusing so maybe thats cleared that up.

If you have a problem with one of my customers you accuse of actually being me then you clear it up with him, all I did was show you that you were wrong, do I hear an apology? I doubt it as you seem to be blinded from what is truth and what is reality.

Paul now how about answering my 2 questions?
I have asked you repeatedly and you seem to ignore my request.

Now its your turn to step up to the plate, for your reminder my questions are repeated below and if you cannot understand the contest, please re read my postings to you.

So once again I ask why gives you that right openly lie about this?
and
I am a little fed up with people like you Paul who seem to know nothing about the person or company your commenting on, have had NO PERSONAL EXPERIANCE with that person or company and seem satisfied to just hide behind your keyboard.

You have not actually posted anything constructive from what I can see?

So please explain yourself as others have asked me to in the past and I have, and lets see what your response is?

n4dxx wrote:Now that i can see with my own 2 peeper's.Misrepresentation at it's finest.MARTYN you run a buisness.That is no way to treat anyone.I had my doubts about you being so dishonest but the proof's in the pudding and there's no way i could buy anything from you after that evidence.Guilty as charged.

Howard, now this is interesting, I see that you have defended me in the past and thank you for having the testies to do that.

But seeing the comments above maybe you would like to explain to me fully your comments.

Before you answer if you could take the time to read my "defence" on the actual transaction and my subsuquent listing of it, I am very interested to hear how you feel that I have misrepresented anything?

Now its your turn to also step up to the plate

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w8jn wrote:Martyn,
You have come to a forum where your taunts, provication, bloviation and bullying just does not work. You will find that the folks here just laugh at your puffing and posturing. You are better off back on Ebay, where you can hide behind retaliatory feedback. People in this forum are real savvy and your efforts at shouting people down will not be taken seriously. So, keep making demands, keep up the intimidation. That will get you nowhere fast.
best 73 Paul w8jn

So Paul, again accusations that are unfounded and untrue, I have not been bullying you, I have been open, up front and honest.

Why are you bypassing the 2 questions I ask you? it seems okay for you to lie and attempt to make fun of me yet I ask 2 simple questions and you avoid answering.

I believe this shows you for the type of person that you are.

You start a thread to attempt to cause my business trouble and yet you cannot substantiate anything you claim with hard facts can you Paul.

Like claiming mrowe and I are one of the same, that I purchased a Drake receiver and re listed it (like people do) but seem to make that out to sound like a scam.

Paul you really are something else, now be a man and answer the 2 questions I have asked you, this is the 4th time I have asked, I eagerly wait for your answer.

Recently, It seems I have only 3 (you included) that seem to delight in posting false acusations and lies and have no idea what they are talking about, I can easily defend myself without mentioning family members and becoming offensive and personal

Now please answer my questions Paul.

martyn's claim is we purchased : 2 .... 870's & 1 .....570 .....
one (1) 870 was ok , the other 870 & 570 were returned as junk .
we lost $ 154 in fees & shipping from kentucky to new jersey , and lost $ 57 in shipping for 2 radios back to kentucky .
for anyone who asks why is mitch buying so many radio's , the reason is , I and my friend , licensed amateurs are supplying radios to a no charge county facility to teach and develop new hams .
I have never met martyn , i responded to an ad on this site , and listened to him , and believed .

Good Morning Mitchell, I recon this will put Paul to rest with the suggestions that you and I are the same, oh Paul still waiting on the answe to the 2 questions I have been asking you, now there must be a reason your no longer answering, my guess is that you now realise how wrong you are?

I read your post with interest and see what you have stated is very different to what you told me not only on the phone but also by email.

Stating 1 TS-870 was okay,, agreed but the other 2 items,,,

The other TS-870 was of the older firmware and operated as you had read on the internet so NOT junk just older firmware, agreed, since resold and new owner is very pleased with it.

The TS-570D how was that junk?? I agreed to its return as you said it did not compare against the 870,, I would not expect it to,, so how were they junk? again resold and new owner is happy.

I thought we were okay but it seems that you doubt me?

Mitchell the story you tell of you and a friend supplying radios at no charge seems to differ from what you have been telling me of a friend who passed away etc etc,, Mitchell I am not going there but have to now doubt the things you have been telling me?

Anyway have a good week, 73s

Martyn,
Thanks for offering me rest, however I will pass!
Happy Hoss Trading Paul w8jn
ps.... As I indicated, in this forum, you do not dictate the pace, your taunts are amusing and I do not answer to you!!

I'm just thankful Martyn doesn't sell something like medical supplies.

I- I think I had a few dealings with him in the past- cant remember- but I just went to see what he had for sale and--

woa- he has my IP address blocked!!


Anyone else have this happen to them?
Joe N2GBT
" whadIdo?"

I had a single dealing with this fraudster several years past. I have not forgotten how he ripped me on a Collins KWM2. When I finely got him on the phone, he was arrogant and said I was wasting his time. I went back to eBay to leave negative feedback to discover I was blocked from buying from him.

n2gbt wrote:I- I think I had a few dealings with him in the past- cant remember- but I just went to see what he had for sale and--

woa- he has my IP address blocked!!


Anyone else have this happen to them?
Joe N2GBT
" whadIdo?"

So is mine.

No great loss, though.

I guess this thread means Stay away from Martyn and PAYPAL.

Do you know that if you sell a radio to someone, that someone can remove parts, (finals, knobs, whatever) and then file a claim with PAYPAL.
PAYPAL will hold your money for about a month and then have the buyer send the radio back. He gets a refund and you get a broken radio.
Sooner or later it will happen to you.
I have 800+ transaction with PAYPAL but I'm done. NO MORE Paypal. I rather wait for a money order.

NR7J wrote:I guess this thread means Stay away from Martyn and PAYPAL.

Do you know that if you sell a radio to someone, that someone can remove parts, (finals, knobs, whatever) and then file a claim with PAYPAL.
PAYPAL will hold your money for about a month and then have the buyer send the radio back. He gets a refund and you get a broken radio.
Sooner or later it will happen to you.
I have 800+ transaction with PAYPAL but I'm done. NO MORE Paypal. I rather wait for a money order.

yup- and... it is as EASY as that! Period. I bought a 575H recently and the radio arrived dead on everything but fm- filed a dispute- had a refund next day after UPS confirmed delivery to the seller- the seller probably didnt evern have a chance to check the radio before paypal refunded me- as a buyer I was happy- IF I were the seller-what if I sent back a shell with no boards in the rig- I would still have had my refund.

They are the same as Amazon- its all about the buyer being happy.
Ya need to be careful. Why Martin has me blocked though is a mystery to me-
I just used a proxy server to check in to his site LOL

I would just like to know why I was blocked to begin with-