K5MDM Radioranch DEFENDING NON PAYING W5MLS

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VE6NSF
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K5MDM Radioranch DEFENDING NON PAYING W5MLS

Post by VE6NSF » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:05 pm

Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email

Since I know Mike well, I checked with him...he recieved the clock and you cashed the money or someone got and cashed....he has the proper documentation...You owe him an apology at least......And you put all this crap on over 40 bux......If he were gonna cheat, or anyone else, it would be for hundreds not $40 buck idiot....Just my humble opinion plus knowing the guy for 20 years youre way outa line. Plenty of quacks here on the internet though... I know it well!! 73 Murray K5MDM Radioranch at QTH dot com

MY reply to Murray K5MDM Radioranch

Well MURRAY seems YOU don't know W5MLS as well as you CLAIM.
I called Micheal L Smith on THESE DATES

July 20 2007 "sent money order to NE" well I live in CANADA
Aug 10 2007 "got his money order BACK & WILL RESEND"
Aug 27 2007 "NOT AVAIL TO TALK" rather ODD
Sept 5 2007 "BIG STORMS can't GET OUT"
Nov 2 2007 "SICK IN HOSPITAL & BROTHER WILL SEND"
Dec 9 2007 "I FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT & WILL RESEND"

As of FEB 15 2008 I STILL have not rec'd PAYMENT of any sort
So if W5MLS Micheal L Smith tells YOU & himself SOMEONE got
the check & CASHED it BOTH of you as you seem to have an interest in
W5MLS should have an INVESTIGATION done & find out WHERE the
check was CASHED & BY WHOM I GUARANTEE it was NOT CASHED
BY ME OR ANYONE IN MY FAMILY IN ALBERTA CANADA

Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email

Mike has reciept where some Canuck cashed the money order for the
clock...Ive known him 20 years....$40 bux just wouldnt change anything,
he could get it a milllion places. Must been robbed by one ot those great
postal workers I guess. I you got it and forgot eh...I do that a lot
....think about it, he's poor but hes' one the best around here, helps
everybody.....you are mistaked and possible lying...Whoever said he didnt
get the money is who Im talkin to...73 Murray K5MDM RadioRanch

MY reply to Murray K5MDM Radioranch

Well Murray for starters I AM PROUD CANADIAN not a Canuck
just like YOU are an AMERICAN not a YANKEE. Now you
yourself say "he's poor" so $40 is $40 to a POOR person RIGHT?
YOU also stated & I QUOTE
"Mike has reciept where some Canuck cashed the money order"
The pair of you SHOULD start an investigation & find out WHERE
this was CASHED & BY WHOM & what ID was used & CHARGE
the person with THEFT. "you are mistaked and possible lying"
"Whoever said he didnt get the money is who Im talkin to"

VE6NSF
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Post by VE6NSF » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:14 pm

Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email 2-17-08

Mike doesnt have a computer just told me the story, Id say your were stuck if youre telling the truth but its up to you, not me...I know him to be a nice,gentle, man whos had hard time with cancer and a debilitating wreck and havent see a side that i think he would tak 50c from you so I believe you are totally %*cked up but I could care less.... Your are lyiing I think, from the evidence available in Texas. So with a gentle approach I was just showing his thought ands sides...If you didnt sign it then a crook got it but it wasnt Mike.... he just isnt like that..thats what Im trying to say. Get it back from one of your socialist whine programs. yall have already talked, and he said you just wouldnt believe it....So I guess just blow it off, or persue it and Ill put you number one on the internet searches, see how you like it....I should stay outa this stuff shouldnt I Scott....But I did see the confirmation that the product was recieved and money was cashed "supposedly by this Roger guy...What you gonna think when you see all that...???? Im gonna stand up for those who cant much help themselves...and Mikes one of em...he has help every office the Midland Amateur Radio Club and even the guys that dont like him would stand up for him..thats all....Im thur nuff said. Murray K5MDM Radioranch

And MY reply is

Well Murray IF W5MLS doesn't have a computer HOW did he find my add & REPLY by email. HOW did YOU SEE the CONFIRMATION INFO IF W5MLS doesn't have a computer. HOW did YOU get ANY INFO as YOU were NOT the SENDER & I don't think USPS would give JOE BLOW OR YOU ANY INFO for the SIMPLE (like you ) reason "PRIVACY ACT" If in FACT you have some sort of PROOF this was CASHED here in Calgary Alberta I would like to see said CONFIRMATION INFO. I sure would like to know WHO CAUSED FRAUD by CASHING the money order MIKE on Dec 9 2007 said "I FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT & WILL RESEND"

"Mike doesnt have a computer just told me the story" "from the evidence available in Texas" " Ill put you number one on the internet searches, see how you like it" "But I did see the confirmation that the product was recieved and money was cashed"

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Re: K5MDM DEFENDING NON PAYING W5MLS READ WHY

Post by radioranch » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:57 am

AND rightfully I should defend Mike Smith....this guy Roger, got his money and signed for it and then went after mike Smith saying he didnt get paid...Mike says hes got the reciept and the payment was cashed in the guys name. Thats ALL he can do,especially for 40 measly bux for people who hide terrorists and believe the govt should pay their bills. Get a life Roger, theres not much you could do either way, but since Mike cant defend him self and Ive known him for 15 + years...I think you are either old and forgetfull. Or got had by your wonderful socialistic Mailing Division over there in whiney land....go whine to Pierre or whoever wimp youve got running your place over there.But dont get to whiney, you know we are covering your ass too!!!!..73 Murray








dAndquote="VE6NSF"]Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email

Since I know Mike well, I checked with him...he recieved the clock and you cashed the money or someone got and cashed....he has the proper documentation...You owe him an apology at least......And you put all this crap on over 40 bux......If he were gonna cheat, or anyone else, it would be for hundreds not $40 buck idiot....Just my humble opinion plus knowing the guy for 20 years youre way outa line. Plenty of quacks here on the internet though... I know it well!! 73 Murray K5MDM Radioranch at QTH dot com

MY reply to Murray K5MDM Radioranch

Well MURRAY seems YOU don't know W5MLS as well as you CLAIM.
I called Micheal L Smith on THESE DATES

July 20 2007 "sent money order to NE" well I live in CANADA
Aug 10 2007 "got his money order BACK & WILL RESEND"
Aug 27 2007 "NOT AVAIL TO TALK" rather ODD
Sept 5 2007 "BIG STORMS can't GET OUT"
Nov 2 2007 "SICK IN HOSPITAL & BROTHER WILL SEND"
Dec 9 2007 "I FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT & WILL RESEND"

As of FEB 15 2008 I STILL have not rec'd PAYMENT of any sort
So if W5MLS Micheal L Smith tells YOU & himself SOMEONE got
the check & CASHED it BOTH of you as you seem to have an interest in
W5MLS should have an INVESTIGATION done & find out WHERE the
check was CASHED & BY WHOM I GUARANTEE it was NOT CASHED
BY ME OR ANYONE IN MY FAMILY IN ALBERTA CANADA

Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email

Mike has reciept where some Canuck cashed the money order for the
clock...Ive known him 20 years....$40 bux just wouldnt change anything,
he could get it a milllion places. Must been robbed by one ot those great
postal workers I guess. I you got it and forgot eh...I do that a lot
....think about it, he's poor but hes' one the best around here, helps
everybody.....you are mistaked and possible lying...Whoever said he didnt
get the money is who Im talkin to...73 Murray K5MDM RadioRanch

MY reply to Murray K5MDM Radioranch

Well Murray for starters I AM PROUD CANADIAN not a Canuck
just like YOU are an AMERICAN not a YANKEE. Now you
yourself say "he's poor" so $40 is $40 to a POOR person RIGHT?
YOU also stated & I QUOTE
"Mike has reciept where some Canuck cashed the money order"
The pair of you SHOULD start an investigation & find out WHERE
this was CASHED & BY WHOM & what ID was used & CHARGE
the person with THEFT. "you are mistaked and possible lying"
"Whoever said he didnt get the money is who Im talkin to"[/quote]

radioranch
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VE6NSF Roger , I have an idea how to settle it in Texas...

Post by radioranch » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:04 am

Wait roger Ive decided to flip you for it Double or nothing..... 80 bux Ill send if you win....wait a minute.......Nope you lost so forget it. . I wouldnt lie!! I would block your from my computer If I could figure out how but I forgot. Oh well.....BITE ME
Can someone tell me how to block this semi communist, apathetic, dimwit from my system, please? Murray I have no truck with Islam lovers....

VE2AMN
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Post by VE2AMN » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:39 am

You can block me too, radioranch!
I hide terrorists and am an islam lover, or so it seems!

As far as I`m concerned, you don`t exist anymore...
Gilles, in the great white north..

VE6NSF
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K5MDM DEFENDING NON PAYING W5MLS

Post by VE6NSF » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:50 am

Murray K5MDM Radioranch writes this email

A friend of ours told us of your listing and Mike called to get me to get the info. NOW %UCK OFF Or Ill %uck with you to death!!!...Its not my bed and Im not gonna lie in it..I dont have proof of anything but ive seen it...If your so worried about it call your insurance man....I was trying to help you understand Mike and anything could happen with him , he's off a few degrees but no crook..so as I said dont email me again or Ill turn you into your server as a pestilence....thought I had you blocked out but I will try again. Sincerely Murray OH heres a good idea, he lives with his sister and the phone @ is 432 2*2 5*** Give him a call, he didnt have a phone for along time...maybe you can talk him into paying you twice. He lives on social security like all you "EH's" do , he may have to pay it out...if you can prove you didint get it but I dont think you can...Murray K5MDM Radioranch@qth.com


MY reply to Murray K5MDM Radioranch

WOW Murray you are WAY BEHIND the times this is 2008 and Pierre has been DEAD for quite some time. In fact he hasn't held office SINCE the '70s. Obviously you DON'T have proof of anything "but YOU'VEseen it". I would like documentation from WHOEVER you say has proof I CASHED the moneyorder as this IS FRAUD. I would like documentation from WHOEVER you say has proof I CASHED the moneyorder as this IS FRAUD. NICE pic MURRAY you must be LEFT HANDED. Flip for it thought you sent FRED to take care of you.

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VE6NSF

Post by va3jwp » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:51 am

Hello all. I have dealt with Roger on a few occasions, and he's as honest as they come as far as i'm concerned. I'd be more than happy to deal with him again.
What really amazes me is the absolute, total, uneducated garbage being written in the last few posts from radioranch. I'm proud to be a Canadian, as i'm sure radioranch is obviously proud to be an American. Their is no need to be bashing countries here. We're all amateurs, regardless of where we live, show a little respect!!. I have alot of family in the US, and they certainly don't talk like that.

73 to all.
James (VA3JWP)

radioranch
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DITTO!, what biz is it of yours....anyway.

Post by radioranch » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:22 pm

VE2AMN wrote:You can block me too, radioranch!
I hide terrorists and am an islam lover, or so it seems!

As far as I`m concerned, you don`t exist anymore...

VE6NSF
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what biz is it of yours....anyway

Post by VE6NSF » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:42 pm

EXACTLY Murray K5MDM Radioranch@qth.com what biz is it of yours....anyway. Seems YOU like to STICK your NOSE into things that have
NOTHING to do with you AT ALL & then you go off on a TANGENT oops sorry (big word EH!)
I would like documentation from WHO EVER you say has proof I CASHED the moneyorder as this IS FRAUD. AND FRAUD is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE

kc6ond
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Hard to believe this

Post by kc6ond » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:37 pm

It's really hard to believe the slurs I'm reading on this post. i want to believe that theres a bit more education here than what were hearing...prove me right. 73's to all. Jerry KC6OND
tnx and 73's Jerry

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Post by kf9z » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:31 pm

I debated even getting involved in this post. I should bite my tongue and let it be. I am sure this will put me on someone's or many others, crap-list - but here goes.

You should have read what was said before some of the horrible remarks about our Northern brethren were 'edited' or removed. It sickens me to see this kind of garbage posted. I used to have great respect for our friend down South and even bought from and sold him radios. That all went out the window with one thread...well other threads as well, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt then, but not today.

There is just no place in this hobby - or anywhere, for talk like that. To say he will %^$# with someone until they die? That part of the post may have been removed, who knows - but it was uncalled for. To make comments about Canada such as those uninformed comments from RR is a rather one-sides and myopic use of the keyboard. I for one, am ashamed and a little concerned that the posts have been left up for all to see how ignorant some people can be. Maybe it is a good thing to call attention to how some people truly think and act. I find it embarrassing and quite sad.

I, for one - hope this entire thread is locked and deleted. The type of personal bashing and lack of class displayed here is unacceptable and should not be tolerated in any fashion.

Darren
Last edited by kf9z on Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

kc6ond
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YES SIR!

Post by kc6ond » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:47 pm

Darren, your right, and I did read it..sickend me. I do agree with you. 73's sir, look forward to catching for a qso some time on air...de kc6ond
tnx and 73's Jerry

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Post by kb5pn » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:12 pm

kf9z wrote: I, for one - hope this entire thread is locked and deleted. The type of personal bashing and lack of class displayed here is unacceptable and should not be tolerated in any fashion.

Darren
I agree 100% with Darren, this thread should be deleted in it's entirety.
Let me assure our friends to the North that there are a very ,very few hams with the negative attitude displayed here. I have always enjoyed talking and dealing with Canadian hams and will continue to do so.

Jerry KB5PN

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amen

Post by kc6ond » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:19 pm

hi jerry, very well said...73's
tnx and 73's Jerry

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Post by VE6NSF » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:37 am

Hi Jerry yes I agree as I haven't YET met or spoke or emailed an AMERICAN that wasn't more than happy to talk on 20 mtrs (bonus points doubler mobile) or help me with the NC109 I had a hum with. Buy parts for the IC-726 I needed W6BL Jerry or any of the MANY I have purchased from & sold pieces to. Just real dissapointed as I spoke to Mike for quite some time on many of my calls & he promissed on his honour & ham operator he would send the money. I took a chance as others have with me & sent the clock. Real cautious about send even a money order lately as you can read the problems I am still having with KB4QBE Danny E Steakley but I did finally get a track # out of him. Then Dave W4CLJ want's to trade a Kenwood for the Azden 7500H I listed a while back. Well I wanted the Kenwood but still Real cautious sending away a real nice radio on a chance again as I had 3 offers of paypal payment STILL the safest way to buy other than in person BUT Dave W4CLJ & I talked & seemed fine so I sent the Azden & Dave had a track # for me BEFORE I could send his radio. Haven't had the Kenwood clear customs yet but I feel good on this one.
I feek you ONLY get one chance to make a FIRST impression & Frog down in Huston we visit every couple years said WE are all the same Canadians are just UN ARMED AMERICANS (well unregistered at least) Roger _._

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Post by hamradman » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:34 am

I too am ashamed what was said to our neighbors to the north. I have had many QSO's with Canadian's and have always found them to be good people to talk to.
As for this Murray guy all I can say is that he has said bad things about peoples ethnic back ground or where they are from or used foul language at them and then in the next sentence says he has to be calm because he has a bad heart.
I think he needs a little anger managment training.

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You are correct , I do need some anger management !!

Post by radioranch » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:30 pm

I was stupid to try and protect my old friend from just another lyin' ham but itts hard not to do.. Now Ive got the Canadians all going and a few Americans, very few. So Ill get some help, and you guys remember that VE6NSF is STILL a liar and started this conversation which is not about the rest of you or me either for that matter. I shouldve stayed out too. But I know its hard for Mike W5MLS to defend himself... I thru with it and only ashamed of a little bit of the conversations...CUL: Murray :oops:

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GOODBYE RADIORANCH.

Post by kw0o » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:56 am

I am an American who was privleged to serve in the Canadian Navy and I can assure you Mr Radio ranch I took all your slurs to Canadians personal.
I love America and I also love Canada and its wonderful people.
In light of your attitude, I would never purchase anything from you, now, or in the future, and I would hope many others would feel the same.
de kw0o kn

KM4OP
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Went to far....

Post by KM4OP » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:29 am

I really think that protecting someone is one thing, but bashing a whole race or country is another. I ask myself is this the kind of person I would make a deal with? buy something from....I don't think so. would this be a person I would want to have a rag chew with? I don't think so.

If this is a sign of where our hobby is headed and the hams we now have among our ranks GOD HELP US ALL!

73, Phil, KM4OP & Felicia, W4XYL
73,

DE Phil, KM4OP

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Post by VE3TMT » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:49 pm

I too really had to bite my tongue to refrain from jumping in.

Murray...you showed your true ignorance and stupidity by the comments you made regarding Canada. Like a little weasel, once you felt threatened, you did what, judging by some of your other posts, you do best...attacked with any comment whether relevant or not. Yeah we hide terrorists in Canada. I've got a few living in my basement. Oops, now I've done it. We also have a health care package second to none. I'm proud of the fact I can go to the best dentist in town, or any other medical circumstance and have it fully paid for. My tax dollars support it, so why should I complain.

I have never purchased anything from you in the past, and now, I never will . You flew your true colors today Murray, hope you are proud.

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Post by w7apm » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:37 pm

I too have seen Murray's rants and had decided long ago I would never do business with him.

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Re: Went to far....

Post by kb9vxq » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:43 am

KM4OP wrote:I really think that protecting someone is one thing, but bashing a whole race or country is another. I ask myself is this the kind of person I would make a deal with? buy something from....I don't think so. would this be a person I would want to have a rag chew with? I don't think so.

If this is a sign of where our hobby is headed and the hams we now have among our ranks GOD HELP US ALL!

73, Phil, KM4OP & Felicia, W4XYL
Well said Phil.

And to Murray/radioranch you stated a few, very few Americans sided against you. I think it's probably allot more than you think after this display of total ignorance and hatred!

VE6NSF
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Murray K5MDM Radioranch@qth.com DOESN'T GIVE UP EH!

Post by VE6NSF » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:50 am

Murray K5MDM Radioranch@qth.com STILL sends emails

I gave you his phone number and you havent called...try again 432 2626 5413. I told not do anything for you cause youve more crap on here that will stay than he can overcome. Me you just got BS out of, no big deal. and the Canadians I know will still buy...They know HONESTY when its show and you cant find anyone that say I didnt pay for something I bought or sent them something that was not what sold...CRASHED I buy em back and fight the fight. So this should finish us off. Thanks for the entertainment, as you can see I do enjoy most of it but Im sorry I lost my temper, that does degrade the quality of a good verbal banter. YOU ARE WRONG about Mike. I talked to him a while ago, he said hell Ill just send it back, and I said , "If you do, you lose your rides to the hamfests" they come from me..Bet you dont get it!! Why should you , or someone at your house did get it.....??73 Murray Radioranch@qth.com

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rants

Post by kw0o » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:18 pm

murray seems to have a problem expressing himself. that last email made no sence at all.
I am firm in the fact I will never purchase from him nor recommend him any time in the future.
de kw0o kn

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Radioranch

Post by va3jwp » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:38 pm

Hello all, i've been monitoring this thread daily since I first read the absolutley terrible comments that radioranch made towards Canadians. I've almost forgotten the fact that the thread is actually about a non payment.
I'd like to thank the amateurs who have taken the time to post their feelings towards what was said. It's hard to believe that someone can actually be so ignorant, it's almost sad.
And lastly, is it just me, or is radioranchs' emails wierd or what?. Roger, I don't know how you can even understand what he's trying to say, it's like he's writing in riddle........very wierd.

73 to all.
James (VA3JWP)

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