KB8PSG ????

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kd8grg
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KB8PSG ????

Post by kd8grg » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:14 pm

Has anyone purchased coax or connectors from KB8PSG - Ken Handley?

He has had a ad for coax and connectors here on QTH since 12/31/07.

I sent Ken an USPS Money Order for $41.00 on Jan. 4th for 100' of RG8-X coax and 2 - PL-259 connectors + shipping. I sent him an email the same day letting him know that I had sent the payment. I did not receive the coax nor did I hear from Ken through the following week. He lives in Otsego, MI and I live in Berrien Springs, MI, approximately 70 miles - 2 shipping days. So I emailed him on Jan. 12 and again on Jan. 13 asking if he had received my payment and shipped the coax. He finally responded on Jan. 13th and said that he had been sick and the coax would go out on Monday the 14th.

I waited several days and emailed Ken again on Thursday Jan. 17th. He didn't respond to my email so I tried calling him using the cell phone number he provided in his ad. His cell phone would either ring and ring, or I received a message indicating that he had his phone turned off. I finally got him on the phone on Friday evening (18th). He stated that he was still recovering from being sick but that he was sure my package went out. When I asked him when and how he shipped it, he said he wasn't sure and he would check with _____ (a woman's name). I asked him to please do so and get back to me.

I have repeatedly tried to call him and send him emails since then and I still have not heard from him.

Brad.
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WE8Q
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Still waiting for AC-4 from KB8PSG

Post by WE8Q » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm

I bought an AC-4 power supply from Ken, KB8PSG, in late December and I have not received it. Same story with being late because of having the flu and now he does not answer emails and I have never been able to get him on the phone (never answers his phone). Here is his address and phone number...
Ken Handley
340 Court Street
Otsego, MI 49078

(269)509-2282

Does anyone know this guy?

73, Steve - K8FFO
Steve Morgan - WE8Q

ac5lo
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Post by ac5lo » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:17 pm

IF I LIVED THAT CLOSE I WOULD MAKE HIM A VIST

VE3TMT
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Post by VE3TMT » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:41 pm

I agree...70 miles is an hours drive. Save yourself some aggravation and make the trip. Love to see the look on his face when you show up at his door.

K4JC
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Another ham scammer??

Post by K4JC » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:15 am

In response to Listing #638189 here on QTH.com, I mailed Ken Handley a postal money order for $50 on 12/31/07, for a Comet SBB-5 antenna plus shipping. On January 10 I sent him an email asking if the antenna had been shipped. He responded on January 13 stating that he had been sick with the flu, but that the antenna had been shipped on Saturday, January 12.

Subsequent emails from me have gone unanswered, and as KD8GRG and K8FFO have experienced, I cannot make phone contact either. Of course, the antenna hasn't shown up yet, either.

A check of his call sign on www.vanityhq.com shows he has been licensed as a General class ham since 1993; however, it also shows his address listed in Battle Creek, MI. Seems odd that someone licensed nearly 15 years would suddenly start scamming fellow hams. I wonder if it could be ID theft?

If anyone does happen to pay him a visit, would you mind picking up my antenna?

N8TG
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just great : <

Post by N8TG » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:36 pm

I sent him $53 money order for a rigblaster...... and have not received it. Same time period as you guys did. Did he send anything to anybody, or did he just decide to keep the $ and the equipment.

Anyone know KEN?

K4ICL
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Are you sure it is Ken?

Post by K4ICL » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:30 pm

Could be an impostor using Ken's call.

AL

N8TG
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Some more thoughts.......

Post by N8TG » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:55 am

Reading a little bit more i've found another add from Ken saying to contact him for his new address. This could be were some of the confusion is. I may have used the address on QRZ because I don't remember him telling me to use another. Anyway I guess I would forgive some of that problem, but I have sent him emails about whether he got the Money order without any reply. I suppose it could be Identity theft. It doesn't matter because I'm out $53.

Ken ...... If you read this contact me to work this out. N8TG@hotmail dot com

WE8Q
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Now his phone has been deactivated!

Post by WE8Q » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:33 pm

The phone number that was working for this guy (269-509-2282) has now been deactivated and I get a recording telling me that it is not a working number. I will be filing federal mail fraud charges against this guy next week. Stay tuned.

73, Steve - K8FFO
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WE8Q
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Federal Mail Fraud Form

Post by WE8Q » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:38 pm

Here is a link to the form for filing a complaint on-line for those involved in this mail fraud scam...

http://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms ... laint.aspx
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WE8Q
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USPS Complaint filed

Post by WE8Q » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:49 pm

I filed my mail fraud charges against Ken Handley with the USPS today.
Steve Morgan - WE8Q

kd8grg
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Post by kd8grg » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:39 am

I also filed my complaint with the US Postal Inspector this evening.

Brad.
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Post by kd8grg » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:48 am

I contact Scott here at QTH.com today and told him of the trouble we have had with Ken. I let him know that Ken still had 16 ads in the Classifieds, open for other unsuspecting buyer. I checked a few minutes ago and Ken's ads have been removed.

Brad.
KD8GRG

WE8Q
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This is not a case of identity theft.

Post by WE8Q » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:23 am

I have verified that this in NOT a case of identity theft. We ARE dealing with Ken Handley, KB8PSG, and not someone who is using his name. Also, the address that we have for him is where he is living.

Ken Handley
340 Court Street
Otsego MI 49078

Telephone 269-694-1040



73, Steve – k8FFO
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N8TG
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Post by N8TG » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:39 pm

My complaint to the post office has been filed also. Thanks guys for all your work and follow up emails.
73
N8TG

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Post by N1QOQ » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:38 pm

Sound like it's time for a road trip. I guess integrity and honor don't mean much these days. Maybe a good thumpin would work? Good luck.

73
Paul
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kd8grg
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Post by kd8grg » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:30 pm

I was contacted by Ken Handley today via email and he gave me a tracking number for the shipment of my coax and connectors. Later in the day I did receive the package via Priority Mail.

Ken still claims that he was out of town, then sick and said that everything got messed up. This may be true, however he made no attempt to contact me to explain the situation nor did he answer most of my emails or phone calls. The two times I did speak to him he told me he was shipping my items the next day and he didn't.

I am glad that Ken came through with his commitment but I do not regret the actions I have taken. At best Ken is a poor unorganized business man.

Brad.
KD8GRG

WE8Q
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My AC-4 has finally arrived!

Post by WE8Q » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:44 pm

I received the AC-4 today after waiting six weeks. It is very unfortunate that I had to go to extremes to track down a working phone number for this man, file a complaint with the USPS, and then suddenly receive a bunch of nasty emails from him just this past weekend calling me all sorts of names before I got what I paid for and he promised to send me at least three different times and never did. I will never deal with Ken Handley, KB8PSG, again. Thanks to all who showed their support during this event. I believe that we would have never received the items that we all paid for if we had not worked together on this. 73, Steve Morgan - K8FFO
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K4JC
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Finally!!

Post by K4JC » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:47 am

Just so the record is straight, I did finally receive my antenna from Ken Handley on February 12. It arrived in good condition; brand new as had been originally described. Odd, though, that Mr. Handley's e-mails started off very well written using good English, and later became very poorly written using improper punctuation, bad spelling, no capitalization and unusual abbreviations (i.e., "ur" instead of "your").

All's well that ends well, I guess, but I will not do any more business with Ken.

Thanks to K8FFO, KD8GRG, and all those who helped in getting this matter to a close.

73, Vince K4JC

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